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Building tall tripod and mast

Bruce Schafer
 

Hello All,

I'm new to this new email list.   I recently purchased parts from GoingVerticalUSA.com per the info that Herb provided on on http://oregonhamwan.org/tripods.html

I purchased the tripod base and 3 sets of four 48" fiberglass poll sections for a total of 12 mast pieces.  I used six sections to make long legs -- 2 sections per leg.  I cut the rings off the female ends of the remaining six sections so they can slide through the center hole of the tripod base.  I filed the newly cut edges a little to make them smooth.  This approach allowed me to build a 24 foot mast by adding 48" sections (now about 46 inches each) from the bottom and pushing them up through the center hole.  (I added a little machine oil so they would slide through the center hole but they still required some twisting.  I got the idea from a fellow ham and from this video: https://youtu.be/AUQwO0Tm994

You'll see the result in the attached photo.  (The photo includes my wife, Pat, who helped me set it up.)  The photo also shows the tripod base, which I purchased.  See https://www.goverticalusa.com/collections/antenna-mast-sections-tripod-and-base-camo-pole-section-kit/products/paddle-base-cheap-base-for-48-military-fiberglass-alum-mast-sect

I haven't used them yet, but I also purchased guy rings so I can run nylon cord from the rings to stakes in the ground.

...Bruce, AA7PB


Recommended client equipment

kc7pmu@...
 

Herb,

What equipment is recommended for a HamWan client in our area?

What will it cost?

When will there be cell sites to connect to near Hillsboro?

Paul


Re: Recommended client equipment

Herb Weiner
 

Paul,

Thanks for your interest. Recommended equipment can be found here. Ken Tolliver has some in inventory.

The first Sector in Portland is planned for the Sylvan (KGW) tower north of Highway 26 near the Cemetery, probably within a few months. We already have all required equipment.

Herb

On Apr 21, 2019, at 11:06 PM, kc7pmu@... wrote:

Herb,

What equipment is recommended for a HamWan client in our area?

What will it cost?

When will there be cell sites to connect to near Hillsboro?

Paul


Re: Recommended client equipment

Bruce Schafer
 

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 7:42 AM Herb Weiner <herbw@...> wrote:
Paul,

Thanks for your interest. Recommended equipment can be found here. Ken Tolliver has some in inventory.

The first Sector in Portland is planned for the Sylvan (KGW) tower north of Highway 26 near the Cemetery, probably within a few months. We already have all required equipment.

Herb

On Apr 21, 2019, at 11:06 PM, kc7pmu@... wrote:

Herb,

What equipment is recommended for a HamWan client in our area?

What will it cost?

When will there be cell sites to connect to near Hillsboro?

Paul


Enable Groups.io Databases and Wiki?

Chris Arnesen
 

Could we get the Databases and Wiki options enabled here on Groups.io so we can start getting our teams set up?  I think the permissions just need to be changed so that members can create/manage new ones.

Also, if Ken could post a list of the teams and the people in them it would be a big help too!

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen, KU7PDX
Hillsboro, Oregon


Re: Enable Groups.io Databases and Wiki?

Herb Weiner
 

Chris,

Thanks for your recommendation. I have enabled these permissions.

Herb

On Apr 23, 2019, at 10:15 AM, Chris Arnesen <chris@...> wrote:

Could we get the Databases and Wiki options enabled here on Groups.io so we can start getting our teams set up?  I think the permissions just need to be changed so that members can create/manage new ones.

Also, if Ken could post a list of the teams and the people in them it would be a big help too!

Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen, KU7PDX
Hillsboro, Oregon


Updates to the Configure Node script

Herb Weiner
 

Scott has questioned whether it is appropriate for allow remote administration by the PSDR (Puget Sound Data Ring) administrators, and I was in the process of adding a configuration option to the web form (http://www.oregonhamwan.org/script-node.html) to make this an option.

Then I got burned. The PSDR administrators apparently removed one of their administrators, as would be appropriate if circumstances changed. This caused the fetch of the SSH key file, and therefore the entire Configure Node script to fail, leaving the Node on which it was running in an invalid state.

Since people running these scripts cannot be expected to understand and diagnose such failures, I have removed all PSDR remote administration from the script, to ensure that such failures do not occur in the future. This feature will therefore not even be an option.

Herb


Re: Enable Groups.io Databases and Wiki?

Chris Arnesen
 

Awesome! That should help out a bunch with collaboration, thank you!
--
Sincerely,
Chris Arnesen, KU7PDX
Hillsboro, Oregon


HamWAN Issue/Project Volunteer Assignments

K7ICY/ Ken Tolliver
 

Attached is a list of various HamWAN Projects and Issues that we need people to help with. On most of them we would like someone to work on the item for a month or so (until our next meeting), and then give a brief presentation at the next meeting on the results they found. Some are Team efforts. Some will definitely take longer than a month. But we need to at least get started. 

Please look over the Spreadsheet and see if there is an item that you would like to help with. Just kick me an email at ktolliver@... and I will add you to the list for whatever item(s) you want to help with. 

73

Ken Tolliver
503-544-7945


Re: Building tall tripod and mast

K7ICY/ Ken Tolliver
 

Bruce:
I think that added $10 base attachment will help take a lot of the stress off of the legs and the mast. 
Good job!

Ken Tolliver


From: oregonhamwan@groups.io <oregonhamwan@groups.io> on behalf of Bruce Schafer <bruceschafer1@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 10:43 PM
To: oregonhamwan@groups.io
Subject: [oregonhamwan] Building tall tripod and mast
 
Hello All,

I'm new to this new email list.   I recently purchased parts from
GoingVerticalUSA.com per the info that Herb provided on on
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Foregonhamwan.org%2Ftripods.html&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C666802c0eb6c4c6e58dc08d6c72ec036%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915401217236126&amp;sdata=t79oQ7O8Ne6FXZXxW1%2F%2BOx5nqUs86e8w5aUozYlLwrI%3D&amp;reserved=0

I purchased the tripod base and 3 sets of four 48" fiberglass poll
sections for a total of 12 mast pieces.  I used six sections to make
long legs -- 2 sections per leg.  I cut the rings off the female ends of
the remaining six sections so they can slide through the center hole of
the tripod base.  I filed the newly cut edges a little to make them
smooth.  This approach allowed me to build a 24 foot mast by adding 48"
sections (now about 46 inches each) from the bottom and pushing them up
through the center hole.  (I added a little machine oil so they would
slide through the center hole but they still required some twisting.  I
got the idea from a fellow ham and from this video:
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FAUQwO0Tm994&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C666802c0eb6c4c6e58dc08d6c72ec036%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915401217236126&amp;sdata=zyWsWA8rZbVZa3xV1LU9bDb3GrnKoA5ojnxQOFMaVoY%3D&amp;reserved=0

You'll see the result in the attached photo.  (The photo includes my
wife, Pat, who helped me set it up.)  The photo also shows the tripod
base, which I purchased.  See
https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.goverticalusa.com%2Fcollections%2Fantenna-mast-sections-tripod-and-base-camo-pole-section-kit%2Fproducts%2Fpaddle-base-cheap-base-for-48-military-fiberglass-alum-mast-sect&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C666802c0eb6c4c6e58dc08d6c72ec036%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636915401217246137&amp;sdata=mMVzTVUsDGpSVc0wR5Ost6SA3Od1ppnYFlxmJ09ueT4%3D&amp;reserved=0

I haven't used them yet, but I also purchased guy rings so I can run
nylon cord from the rings to stakes in the ground.

...Bruce, AA7PB







Meeting Room to discuss Research Topic

 

Ken et al,

Can we use the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS to hold a discussion on our research topic on Asterisk Telephone System and Network Planning?

Alternately, does anyone else have a room, ideally with a white board, that could be used to kick-off our group's discussion?


Conference room to discuss our research topic

 

Ken et al,

Can we use the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS to hold a discussion on our research topic on Asterisk Telephone System and Network Planning?

Alternately, does anyone else have a room, ideally with a white board, that could be used to kick-off our group's discussion?

--
-mike glidewell
425michael@...


How can I test & experiment with my new IP Phone?

Herb Weiner
 

There was a recent message on the PSDR (Puget Sound Data Ring) that they have been having good success with SNOM 821 refurbished phones from Amazon, so I ordered one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0716QGP9R) for $29.99 (I see that the price has now gone up to $39.99).

Other than signing up for an IP phone number from Vonage or similar provider, is there any way that I can test and/or experiment with this phone? If necessary, I can assign it a routable IP address.

Thanks for any hints or advice.

Herb


Re: How can I test & experiment with my new IP Phone?

Eric Johnson, N7ENG
 

A lot of people have been using this service...

They basically have a SIP server available, I personally haven't used this yet, but i'm sure they are pretty good to use.
Eric

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:04 PM Herb Weiner <herbw@...> wrote:
There was a recent message on the PSDR (Puget Sound Data Ring) that they have been having good success with SNOM 821 refurbished phones from Amazon, so I ordered one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0716QGP9R) for $29.99 (I see that the price has now gone up to $39.99).

Other than signing up for an IP phone number from Vonage or similar provider, is there any way that I can test and/or experiment with this phone? If necessary, I can assign it a routable IP address.

Thanks for any hints or advice.

Herb


Re: How can I test & experiment with my new IP Phone?

Eric Johnson, N7ENG
 

Here is a bit more information from the Seattle HamWan people about IP Phones.

The short answer is we run a pair of servers running the Asterisk PBX software. We currently use pacemaker/corosync for the highly available aspects, though I don’t know that I’d recommend that path. Typically FXOs will refer to hardline ports, which is fine, though probably significantly more expensive and hassle prone than you’d like. We just use a SIP provider over the public internet upstream for inbound/outbound with the rest of the world which is easy and cheap.

Eric


Re: How can I test & experiment with my new IP Phone?

Jonathan Bezayiff, AD7NY <KD7VVH@...>
 

If you just want to play with voip, a provider that I use, is https://voip.ms/ their rates are reasonable, and they do offer local DID (dial in device) numbers too.

I am currently building out an old server I own, to play with more recent versions of Asterix (the PDX core in voip systems) when I get to a point where I feel things are secure and stable enough I will put it on my network and make it “testable”

 

From: oregonhamwan@groups.io on behalf of Herb Weiner <herbw@...>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 15:04
To: oregonhamwan@groups.io
Subject: [oregonhamwan] How can I test & experiment with my new IP Phone?
 
There was a recent message on the PSDR (Puget Sound Data Ring) that they have been having good success with SNOM 821 refurbished phones from Amazon, so I ordered one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0716QGP9R) for $29.99 (I see that the price has now gone up to $39.99).

Other than signing up for an IP phone number from Vonage or similar provider, is there any way that I can test and/or experiment with this phone? If necessary, I can assign it a routable IP address.

Thanks for any hints or advice.

Herb


Re: How can I test & experiment with my new IP Phone?

Herb Weiner
 

Thanks, Eric. I have submitted a Hamshack Hotline helpdesk ticket to setup my phone.

Herb

On Apr 26, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Eric Johnson, N7ENG <Off732@...> wrote:

A lot of people have been using this service...

They basically have a SIP server available, I personally haven't used this yet, but i'm sure they are pretty good to use.
Eric

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:04 PM Herb Weiner <herbw@...> wrote:
There was a recent message on the PSDR (Puget Sound Data Ring) that they have been having good success with SNOM 821 refurbished phones from Amazon, so I ordered one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0716QGP9R) for $29.99 (I see that the price has now gone up to $39.99).

Other than signing up for an IP phone number from Vonage or similar provider, is there any way that I can test and/or experiment with this phone? If necessary, I can assign it a routable IP address.

Thanks for any hints or advice.

Herb





Re: Conference room to discuss our research topic

K7ICY/ Ken Tolliver
 

To All Research Groups:

I have keys and alarm codes to the Bishop's Storehouse and Radio Room on 82nd Ave (10420 SE 82nd Ave, Portland, OR 97222) . It has a good conference room and large white board. Also has a 50+ inch TV Screen to display computer presentations on. 

So it can be scheduled most evenings, or Saturdays. 

It does not currently have HamWAN Connectivity. Probably could if we put a dish on top of the Radio Tower though.

If you guys set a date for your meeting, I can verify no one else will be using it then. 

Ken
503-544-7945


★★★★★ · Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints · 10420 SE 82nd Ave
www.google.com









From: oregonhamwan@groups.io <oregonhamwan@groups.io> on behalf of mike glidewell <425MICHAEL@...>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 10:22 AM
To: oregonhamwan@groups.io
Subject: [oregonhamwan] Conference room to discuss our research topic
 
Ken et al,

Can we use the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS to hold a discussion on our research topic on Asterisk Telephone System and Network Planning?

Alternately, does anyone else have a room, ideally with a white board, that could be used to kick-off our group's discussion?

--
-mike glidewell
425michael@...


Network Design and Implementation...

Eric Johnson, N7ENG
 

I have been pondering over what is needed for backbone connectivity, design, and implementation
There are a couple of technologies that will need to be configured on sector "Routers", and on "Edge Routers".
The first is BGP and provider peering.
OregonHamWan (Known as OHW) is able to announce their 44.26.102.x assigned number through Seattle BGP peer.

BGP: In time we should also announce it through a Portland BGP peer.
Below is a good document outlining BGP and the roll it takes.
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Security/IE_DG.pdf

OSPF: Once inside the network, the IP Addresses need to know where to route (What actual sector the are assigned to) for example...
44.26.102.128 could be physically located on a Salem sector antenna, the edge router will need to know route to Salem over P2P PDX 2 Salem, then route to sector antenna 120DEG.
Below is a good design document on this.
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/open-shortest-path-first-ospf/7039-1.html

Once we have a "Ring" say PDX to Salem, to Goat Mt. There should be redundancy within the network.
VRRP: "Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol" or HSRP: "Hot Standby Router Protocol" would be a redundancy technology such that the local "Default Gateway" would have redundancy.
This is where there are Two routers that have a physical IP address, and a virtual IP Address. The virtual IP Address is where all the local subnet IP devices point their traffic to get out of the local subnet.
If one physical router goes down, the secondary router takes over routing packets for the local subnet.
https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Campus/HA_campus_DG/hacampusdg.html#wp1107578

This is all I have now, perhaps ill set up a few labs using EVE-NG, to demonstrate all the above technologies. I have also successfully peered Microtik routers with Cisco over BGP. That was fun!
If anybody is interested in playing with a virtual routing and switching lab, EVE-NG is the way to go.
https://www.eve-ng.net/

That's all I have for now.
Eric N7ENG


IRC...

Eric Johnson, N7ENG
 

I went ahead and created an IRC channel on freenode (I know it's not on the HamWan network just yet) for quick questions etc... As well to get used to using IRC as that may be a service OHW uses in the future.
Head on over to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and Join the channel #OregonHamWan

N7ENG

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